Seequins 4IDS / Wholy Detox Tea / Cardioflex Q10 – An Investigation

While out for coffee at a place I frequent with my father fairly regularly,I often see a weekly publication called Free Jive Weekly (Brandon Edition). All it amounts to is a collection of amusing and general interest news stories along with various brain teasers, customized to the Brandon market by way of the localized advertising.

It is in these ads where I find todays entry topic. Not in one product being advertised, but in 3. One from one source company, and the other 2 from a shared source company. All the ads (and the products pedaled therein) caught my attention not just due to the hard to believe properties they apparently hold (Wholy “Detox” Tea!), but also due to the generic look of one of the ads. While one appears to have an address to their local clinic, the other appears only web based.

But on to the first.

Seequins 4IDS 

First we will start with this Vitamin C based anti-aging and skin brightening serum. The ad reads:

Highest grade of Vitamin C on the market and 4% hydroquinone (lightening agent) on the market. Anti-aging and skin brightening serum. Hydroquinone targets sun damage and hyperpigmentation of the skin while the vitamin C helps with anti-aging, reduces the signs of environmental damage such as fine lines and wrinkles and uneven skin texture and tone. Oil free.

If I didn’t know what product this was pertaining to, I would have thought I was reading an advertisement for a product from Olay or Neutrogena. Now on to the website.

http://ramayacosmetic.com

The front page is not much to write home about. Just some outdated specials (from 4 months ago) and some “tips”. Its a bit unprofessional to not keep your website up to date in the day and ago of social media, but it can be overlooked. When running a small business, there is not always time for such details (though it would be a high priority for my business, even if I had to designate the task to someone else).

It looks like they provide a number of different cosmetic services  (including botox) as listed here . The prices floored me a bit, but I am a male. I may have never found myself wanting a Flower Enzyme peel or laser hair removal, but that does not discount the market for such procedures  (no matter the price point).

As far as I can see, this seems to be just a local cosmetic clinic. Which is fine, since my focus was (and is) more on the serum advertised (Seequins 4IDS) then on the business itself.

On that note, the serum. Search engine time.

4ids

Looks like Seequins 4IDS is a generally available skin care product from the company Vivier, but distributed solely though cosmetic clinics.  At least that is what the search results tell me, since most of the hits are from various cosmetic clinics and not online stores. But the all important question is, does it work?

Reviewers on Amazon seem to think so, giving it 5 out of 5 stars (along with 4 positive customer reviews). This online store has one bad comment and review, but an overall  average of 4 and a half out of 5 stars (and positive customer comments). This skin care product review site again has a 5 star average and positive customer reaction.

As far as I can tell, this is a product that the vast majority of its users seem to like. Granted, this is all based off of customer reviews and satisfaction ratings (a system that can be at times, untrustworthy). But none the less, amongst the results I fail to find anything put out by anyone that casts ANY doubt on the authenticity of the product. Which is a first in my history of reviewing  anything.

I can’t see myself paying between $103 and $130 dollars (depending on the website) for a tiny vial of skin care serum. But I am not the target demographic. If you are in that demographic, I see no reason to not make the purchase.

That out of the way, lets move on to the next product.

Dr. Miller’s Wholy Tea

Here we have a product that raises 2 red flags just in the name alone. First you have “Dr. Millers”, an obvious attempt at showcasing credibility just by having the product attributed to a doctor. The first thing that comes to mind is . . .

approved

Note: This product is not actually “Dr Oz Approved”. The distiction just happened to come to mind whilst seeing “Dr” in the product description

While having a product attributed to any doctor may serve as a seal of authenticity for many, not for me. Even the most well known “Celebrity Doctors” are not beyond questionable behavior. Some (^^^) are more notable then others in this respect, but all are guilty of it at least some of the time.

This seems to be a hard sell for many fans of said doctors, but my retort to that is simple . . . get your head out of your ass! These  quacks are not your family physician(s), so stop blindly granting them the same trust you would to your family physician.
I can guarantee that your family physician is far more concerned with your well being then any of these TV quacks.

With that out of the way, the next part of the name that sticks out is “Wholy Tea”. Clever. Its so good that its almost Holy tea!
But that name might create a few false advertising headaches (“This is not divine tea!”), so better throw a W in there for good measure.

And now for a product description.

Wholy Tea for Daily Detox

Its as easy as 1,2, tea!

Really?

– Lose weight & reduce bloating

– Effectively cleanses the bowel and liver

– Eases stomach distress such as:
constipation, indigestion, acid reflux, bloating

– Detoxify your body from:
chemicals, parasites, bacteria, toxins

You’ll love the way you feel!
In 7 days or less

I gotta admit, were off to a bad start. The name alone was its own thing, but this product description does not help. I see 2 different “results” (weight loss and detoxification) that are commonly proven to be false claims in many similar products. But suspicion is not evidence. Which is why I love the internet.

My first hit is from a diet website which has this to say about wholy tea:

Dr. Miller’s Holy Tea seems to be nothing more than an herbal laxative. The only weight loss ingredient are the Marshmallow leaves and those are supposed to absorb water to make the stomach feel fuller but the herbs are not ingested, they are steeped in a tea. Without scientific evidence to back up the weight loss claims, we cannot support a product helping people to lose weight with a laxative effect.

There is more interesting stuff in the comment section, but I won’t utilize it here. You may want to take a look though, since the prevailing lean of at least those I read tells an interesting story.

The Amazon page for this product has a number of positive reviews listed, but how people ranked it out of 5 is noticeably contradictory to the prevailing attitude of the reviewers.

This post in a body building forum is not a “legitimate” source by any standard, but it again, tells an interesting story (considering the presumably health conscious background of the forum users). And it made me laugh.
Take this post:

It means your premise, and product, are bs. The colon does not store stuff, unless you are constipated. Either you are not constipated, in which case you need nothing, or you are, and you need to change your diet or hydrate. The odd stuff you see after using your product is partially digested food; it is being forced prematurely from other areas of your digestive tract, in states of digestion you’ve never seen before (because it’s been forcibly ejected early).

Then there is this site, apparently belonging to a weight loss coach. Though a “review” (or a list of testimonials), it could have fooled me. For one thing, it reads much like another similar piece I came across last year (albeit that piece was from a clairvoyant, as opposed to a weight loss coach). And it contains this sentence:

When one of my readers, approached me, as many business people have over the years, to try her product, I respectfully did a “due diligence” looking online for bad reviews and the scam element. To my great surprise, though I searched for hours, there were none!

My response to that is, obviously you were looking with your eyes closed. Ive only been looking for maybe 45 minutes to an hour, and I have found negative reviews.

At this point, I am content to note that this “Wholy Tea” is not a scam, persay. It is a product that is legitimately available, and apparently has a legitimate purpose that has benefited many users.

But at the same time, not everyone has bought into the notion that this product is necessary for its claimed purpose (weight loss by way of a laxative effect) considering its $30 price point. Take this one commenter from the first site I referenced:

As the original article publisher pointed out, this ‘tea’ is an herbal laxative. It will make you visit the bathroom more than usual which is it’s intended purpose. But why would you want to spend the extra money for this product when you can get the exact same effect from a box of pitted prunes available for far less money, which is also herbal I may add, and on the supermarket shelf for much less. Note also this is the same tea promoted by getthetea.com on the Alex Jones Show. Use good old reliable pitted prunes and lots of warm water with a teaspoon of salt added for the identical de-tox effect and colon cleanse.

Long story short, you can spend your hard earned cash on anything you want. But in this case, I would not recommend this product. I have found out by accident that both prune nectar and green tea (in excess) have the same affect.

Note that this is not a “testimonial” for green tea or prune nectar. I am not a doctor or otherwise qualified to give dietary or medical advice. DO NOT use my anecdotal findings (nor any one else’s!) to influence your decision.

As for the “detox” affect of this tea, that is open ended. It does not appear that anyone (or any organization) has actually tested that claim scientifically. But that is not a surprise, because not many of these products are tested for effectiveness.

One source I can point you to however is a segment of the CBC show Marketplace, where they put a detox plan as advised by a popular celebrity doctor (can you guess which one?) to the test. Long story short, the results are not very good.

   

This video only has just under 6000 views. Which is a shame, considering the viewer ship numbers of the false segment in terms of live viewers ALONE. Not counting reruns or online viewing.
Again, this is not “proof” that the product in question, is in fact faulty in terms of its touted detoxification properties. However, given the reputation of similar products, its not unreasonable to make that assumption.
Are you willing to spend $30 on an assumption of truth?

Its your choice.

On to the next product.

Cardioflex Q10

Here we have another product that is associated to a doctor as a form of marketing. Or in this case, the research of a doctor. But on to the text of the ad itself.

A diamond in the Rough for Cardiovascular Support

Cardioflex Q10 is a scientifically proven formula that contains the therapeutic amounts of the natural building blocks which are needed to manufacture collagen which is essential to:

– Repair and strengthen arteries

– Dissolve cholesterol plaques

– Improve circulation and boost immune system

Based on two time Nobel Prize Laureate, Dr. Linus Pauling’s research on reversing CVD

Here we have a product that is not just “scientifically proven” and the product of a two time  Nobel Laureate’s research, its also one with a quite important function. Were not talking about shedding a few pounds or detoxification, were talking about your heart health. Not a claim to be taken lightly.

So off we go.

Amazon does not have much feedback on this product, but there are 2 couple raters. One 5 of 5, and the other 3 of 5. Though there are only 2 written reviews (pertaining to the raters), the 3 of 5 rater’s review seems more honest then the other.

When clicking on the profiles, the 5 of 5 reviewer only has one reviewed product on record, which is Cardioflex Q10. The other person however has a number of different product reviews in a couple of categories. A sign of an every day Amazon user reviewing various past purchases. As opposed to a planted review.

The other products reviewed in this piece may have had similar “plants”, but if there was, I don’t really pay attention to them. There was enough other reviews to reduce their effectiveness. As opposed to this situation, where it stuck out like a sore thumb.

There is a lengthy and positive review of Cardioflex Q10 (and a similar version from another company) written by Dr Elie Klein for Vitality Magazine.

In my private practice, I have had many clients respond very well to this approach. People who had chest pain or leg pain due to extensive blockages experienced alleviation of pain within two to four weeks when they ingested at least 6 grams of vitamin C and lysine daily. Blood pressure often improved (the arteries regained elasticity), as well as cholesterol levels (although cholesterol doesn’t concern me much and has to be considered as a part of a bigger picture). Other benefits included improved blood sugar levels, energy levels, and stabilized heart beat.

Also, most people can easily purchase many of these nutrients individually in order to create a regimen of heart healthy nutritional medicine for prevention of heart disease.

One note of caution is for people who have a tendency for elevated iron levels. High doses of vitamin C (with this therapy 3,000-6,000mg or more daily) can increase the absorption of iron. So consult a health professional.

This approach doesn’t make billions for big pharma companies so it had not been researched extensively and marketed aggressively and most of you haven’t heard of it. It is, however, fairly safe and worth the try.

But this should be noted:

Although Pauling and Rath’s formula was never commercialized,- See more at: http://www.vitalitymagazine.com/article/healing-heart-disease/#sthash.ifkX50jA.dpuf

This is not related to the effectiveness or the legitimacy of the product. But it shows us that the accredited scientists behind the research are not profiting from this product. I had suspected this already (due to the wording of the ad), but this confirmed it.

When it comes to this product, I think I am ready to come to a conclusion. And that conclusion is, plausible.
In terms of the repair and strengthening of arteries, this seems to be backed by at least one doctor, based in a real practice in North York, Ontario. This doctor seems to be very active in various places online, and does not seem to have any dissenting voices anywhere amongst the articles. But it is only one source. As such, not enough to “verify” this product.

One thing that is quite noticeable with this product is the lack of reviews. Not just lack of REAL reviews, but reviews period. The other 2 products in this piece had reviews all over the place, finding them was not an issue. But all I could find on Cardioflex Q10 was, amazon. And that was just 2, one I strongly suspect was planted.

As such, I conclude that this product is indeed, legitimate. And it seems to do what it is intended to do. But I can not prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. As such, it may be useful to your well being, but  consult your physician first. As always.

Innotech

An interesting thing to note is the name of the manufacturer of the last 2 products investigated, which is Innotech.  The first thing that occurred to me upon hearing the name was a movie reference.

Does this ring a bell?

initech

initech

Likely just a coincidence, but none the less, amusing.

 The moral of todays post is, ask your doctor. I can not stress this enough.

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2 Responses to Seequins 4IDS / Wholy Detox Tea / Cardioflex Q10 – An Investigation

  1. “I gotta admit, were off to a bad start” – This had me laughing.

    No-one needs to take laxatives unless they have a diet issue or illness that can, as stated, be sorted out by eating much cheaper alternatives to this tea, or going to see the doctor to find out what the real problem is. Using laxatives for weight loss is a grim way to do so and your body pats for it.

    Also, detoxing is absolute bullshit too, and sellers chuck it in randomly, whilst dimly-lit bulbs of sheeple queue up to pay a great deal on items that are completely unnecessary – http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/05/detox-myth-health-diet-science-ignorance

    Good post again MB Man *smiles*.

    – sonmi upon the Cloud

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    • mbman says:

      I gotta admit that I was surprised at how this piece turned out (only 1 of 3 being “proven” unessesary). I suppose its because I have run across this kind of thing so often that it becomes routine.
      I guess you could say, the signs. The things that make others say “Oooo, that looks interesting!” make me think “What are they not telling me?”.

      Its nice to be disproven occasionally :).

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